India_USA
11-03 08:27 AM
If Republicans control the House, they will be too bitter because they can't repeal the Health Care Reform, and will not let CIR pass in 2011. Best hope is 2012 now. Obama could have easily passed CIR in past 2 years, instead he focused all his efforts on health care..
As was said somewhere else on this forum, "lets take care of the foreigners first and then take care of the dying!" Sounds - what's the word - logical!
As was said somewhere else on this forum, "lets take care of the foreigners first and then take care of the dying!" Sounds - what's the word - logical!
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DoggyStyle
07-21 10:31 PM
I knew the call was a BS. I don't want to waste my prepaid calling card. Real job ads are hard to come by these days, and H1b job ads
don't exist any more.:D
don't exist any more.:D
gdilla
07-27 01:34 PM
They've already said to give them until Aug 1st for June filers. Then they will focus on July filers. Simple as that. If your checks aren't cashed by Aug 1/2 for a June filer, then perhaps you have reason to call. If your checks are cashed, then YOU'RE IN, no need to call. Whatever you need is in the mail. If you don't get it by frst week of august, then call.
That was before their newly found 'effeciency'...
more recently, they took 2 days (not even working days) to APPROVE 25000 AOS applications, how hard do you think it is for them to issue receipts ? :)
That was before their newly found 'effeciency'...
more recently, they took 2 days (not even working days) to APPROVE 25000 AOS applications, how hard do you think it is for them to issue receipts ? :)
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07-13 01:40 PM
"Long Journey. Finally GC
by J2GC
Hi Guys,
After a long journey of more than Sixteen years in this country, I finally received my GC.
In short, I came in 1993 on J-1 for my training which took six years, followed by one year on O-1 visa and then J-1 waiver for three and half years in underserved area. Then applied for labor certification in Oct, 2003 EB2, through university, which was approved and then retrogressed. Applied Schedule IIA, approved but also got retrogressed. Got AILA liaison and Senetor involved.
Applied for EB1 and NIW in July 2008.
My lawyer was very much involved in the whole process, was very helpful at every step, and wrote letters to USCIS.
Finally, GC came in April, 2009 and received the cards one week later. My PD Oct 2003.
During these time, I actually had no problmes at my job or my my wife's job. Brought a house four years ago.
The main problems were:
Daughter and son could not apply to state colleges/ medical colleges. (daughter going to med school next month)
Got stuck in India for renew of H-1 for 2 months!!! (worst time of my life, with my wife and kids in US) I tied every thing from writing letters to calling Ambasador. Not effective.
Could not go to certain occasions, like death of very close family members, weddings etc.
However, I kept my cool and prayed and got lot of support from Immigration voice.
As a small token of appreciation, I am donating $500 .(and will keep on supporting)
We all are going to get GC, some sooner some later. Just keep on doing you job.
Thanks you all for all the information and support.
J2GC (J-1 visa to GC)"
Congrates, and thank you so much for supporting and appreciating IV. Your journey is inspirational to rest of us. God bless all.
by J2GC
Hi Guys,
After a long journey of more than Sixteen years in this country, I finally received my GC.
In short, I came in 1993 on J-1 for my training which took six years, followed by one year on O-1 visa and then J-1 waiver for three and half years in underserved area. Then applied for labor certification in Oct, 2003 EB2, through university, which was approved and then retrogressed. Applied Schedule IIA, approved but also got retrogressed. Got AILA liaison and Senetor involved.
Applied for EB1 and NIW in July 2008.
My lawyer was very much involved in the whole process, was very helpful at every step, and wrote letters to USCIS.
Finally, GC came in April, 2009 and received the cards one week later. My PD Oct 2003.
During these time, I actually had no problmes at my job or my my wife's job. Brought a house four years ago.
The main problems were:
Daughter and son could not apply to state colleges/ medical colleges. (daughter going to med school next month)
Got stuck in India for renew of H-1 for 2 months!!! (worst time of my life, with my wife and kids in US) I tied every thing from writing letters to calling Ambasador. Not effective.
Could not go to certain occasions, like death of very close family members, weddings etc.
However, I kept my cool and prayed and got lot of support from Immigration voice.
As a small token of appreciation, I am donating $500 .(and will keep on supporting)
We all are going to get GC, some sooner some later. Just keep on doing you job.
Thanks you all for all the information and support.
J2GC (J-1 visa to GC)"
Congrates, and thank you so much for supporting and appreciating IV. Your journey is inspirational to rest of us. God bless all.
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helloh1
01-26 06:19 PM
hey lazycis.... thanks for the pdf. Its very informative and relieving too.
god_bless_you
02-20 06:21 PM
Office of Communications
www.uscis.gov
Questions & Answers February 20, 2008
FBI Name Check
Q1. How has USCIS changed its national security reporting and adjudication
requirements?
A1. USCIS has not changed its background check policies as those policies related to naturalization
applications. Recently, the agency did modify its existing guidance for applications where the
immigration laws allow for the detention and removal of individuals if actionable information from a FBI
name check response is received after approval. For these types of applications, including applications
for lawful permanent residence, the adjudicators will approve the application if it is otherwise approvable
and the FBI name check request has been pending for more than 180 days. No application for lawful
permanent residence will be approved until a definitive FBI fingerprint check and Interagency Border
Inspection Services (IBIS) check are completed and resolved favorably.
Q2. Why is this policy being implemented?
A2. This policy change is in response to a 2005 DHS Inspector General recommendation that USCIS
align its background check screening policies with those of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Q3. Is this policy consistent with the national security priorities of USCIS and the Department of
Homeland Security?
A3. Yes. No application for lawful permanent residence will be approved until a definitive FBI
fingerprint check and Interagency Border Inspection Services (IBIS) check are completed and resolved
favorably. In addition, in the unlikely event that DHS receives actionable information after the
application is approved, it will initiate removal proceedings. Lastly, in general these individuals have
been in the United States for some time and have previously been subjected to DHS background checks.
Q4. What applications are affected by this policy change?
A4. Applications included in this policy are:
�� I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status;
�� I-601, Application for Waiver of Ground of Inadmissibility;
�� I-687, Application for Status as a Temporary Resident Under Section 245A of the Immigration
and Nationality Act; and
�� I-698, Application to Adjust Status from Temporary to Permanent Resident (Under Section 245A
of Public Law 99-603).
Q5. How many applications for lawful permanent residence are affected by this policy change?
A3. USCIS is currently aware of approximately 47,000 applications for permanent residence (I-485) cases
that are otherwise approvable but for the fact that an FBI name check is pending. In a subset of these
case, the FBI name check request that been pending for more than 180 days. USCIS anticipates that the
majority of the cases that are subject to this policy modification will be processed by mid-March 2008.
Q5. Does this policy change affect naturalization applications?
A5. No. There is no change in the requirement that FBI name check, FBI fingerprint and IBIS check
results be obtained and resolved prior to the adjudication of an Application for Naturalization (N-400),
Q6. How long will it take for USCIS to work through these cases affected by the policy change?
A6. USCIS has begun identifying the cases affected by this policy modification in each field office and
service center. Each office will evaluate the pending cases and will adjust their workload accordingly.
USCIS anticipates that the majority of the cases that are subject to this policy modification will be
processed by mid-March 2008. We recommend that customers wait until mid-March before inquiring
about their cases. This will allow each office sufficient time to identify and adjudicate pending cases.
Q7. USCIS Director Gonzalez pledged in his January 17, 2008, testimony regarding naturalization
backlogs before Congress not to cut corners in the adjudicative process or risk national security in
the interest of production? Does this policy comply with the Director’s pledge?
A7. Yes. There is no change in the requirement that FBI name check, FBI fingerprint and IBIS check
results be obtained and resolved prior to the adjudication of an Application for Naturalization (N-400),
For those applications for permanent residence that are affected by this policy modification, no
application will be approved until a definitive FBI fingerprint check and Interagency Border Inspection
Services (IBIS) check are completed and resolved favorably. USCIS will continue to initiate the FBI
name check requests upon receipt of the applications and will review, monitor and track cases approved
under this policy until the FBI name check is complete. In the unlikely event that DHS receives
actionable information after the application is approved, it will initiate removal proceedings.
Q8. The memorandum identifies I-485, I-601, I-687 and I-698 forms. Is there a plan to include
other forms, specifically nonimmigrant and naturalization, in this policy?
A8. No.
Q9. Should customers contact USCIS through the 1-800 customer service number or make an
INFOPASS appointment to visit their local office if they believe their application meets the criteria
of this new policy?
A9. We recommend that customers wait until mid-March before inquiring about cases affected by this
policy modification. This will allow each office sufficient time to identify and adjudicate the relevant
pending cases. If no action is taken by mid-March, we recommend inquiring with the USCIS customer
service line at 1-800-375-5283.
Q10. Will USCIS automatically notify an applicant to appear at an Application Support Center if their fingerprints have expired?
A10. Applicants will be notified through an appointment notice if new/updated fingerprint checks are
needed.
– USCIS –
www.uscis.gov
Questions & Answers February 20, 2008
FBI Name Check
Q1. How has USCIS changed its national security reporting and adjudication
requirements?
A1. USCIS has not changed its background check policies as those policies related to naturalization
applications. Recently, the agency did modify its existing guidance for applications where the
immigration laws allow for the detention and removal of individuals if actionable information from a FBI
name check response is received after approval. For these types of applications, including applications
for lawful permanent residence, the adjudicators will approve the application if it is otherwise approvable
and the FBI name check request has been pending for more than 180 days. No application for lawful
permanent residence will be approved until a definitive FBI fingerprint check and Interagency Border
Inspection Services (IBIS) check are completed and resolved favorably.
Q2. Why is this policy being implemented?
A2. This policy change is in response to a 2005 DHS Inspector General recommendation that USCIS
align its background check screening policies with those of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Q3. Is this policy consistent with the national security priorities of USCIS and the Department of
Homeland Security?
A3. Yes. No application for lawful permanent residence will be approved until a definitive FBI
fingerprint check and Interagency Border Inspection Services (IBIS) check are completed and resolved
favorably. In addition, in the unlikely event that DHS receives actionable information after the
application is approved, it will initiate removal proceedings. Lastly, in general these individuals have
been in the United States for some time and have previously been subjected to DHS background checks.
Q4. What applications are affected by this policy change?
A4. Applications included in this policy are:
�� I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status;
�� I-601, Application for Waiver of Ground of Inadmissibility;
�� I-687, Application for Status as a Temporary Resident Under Section 245A of the Immigration
and Nationality Act; and
�� I-698, Application to Adjust Status from Temporary to Permanent Resident (Under Section 245A
of Public Law 99-603).
Q5. How many applications for lawful permanent residence are affected by this policy change?
A3. USCIS is currently aware of approximately 47,000 applications for permanent residence (I-485) cases
that are otherwise approvable but for the fact that an FBI name check is pending. In a subset of these
case, the FBI name check request that been pending for more than 180 days. USCIS anticipates that the
majority of the cases that are subject to this policy modification will be processed by mid-March 2008.
Q5. Does this policy change affect naturalization applications?
A5. No. There is no change in the requirement that FBI name check, FBI fingerprint and IBIS check
results be obtained and resolved prior to the adjudication of an Application for Naturalization (N-400),
Q6. How long will it take for USCIS to work through these cases affected by the policy change?
A6. USCIS has begun identifying the cases affected by this policy modification in each field office and
service center. Each office will evaluate the pending cases and will adjust their workload accordingly.
USCIS anticipates that the majority of the cases that are subject to this policy modification will be
processed by mid-March 2008. We recommend that customers wait until mid-March before inquiring
about their cases. This will allow each office sufficient time to identify and adjudicate pending cases.
Q7. USCIS Director Gonzalez pledged in his January 17, 2008, testimony regarding naturalization
backlogs before Congress not to cut corners in the adjudicative process or risk national security in
the interest of production? Does this policy comply with the Director’s pledge?
A7. Yes. There is no change in the requirement that FBI name check, FBI fingerprint and IBIS check
results be obtained and resolved prior to the adjudication of an Application for Naturalization (N-400),
For those applications for permanent residence that are affected by this policy modification, no
application will be approved until a definitive FBI fingerprint check and Interagency Border Inspection
Services (IBIS) check are completed and resolved favorably. USCIS will continue to initiate the FBI
name check requests upon receipt of the applications and will review, monitor and track cases approved
under this policy until the FBI name check is complete. In the unlikely event that DHS receives
actionable information after the application is approved, it will initiate removal proceedings.
Q8. The memorandum identifies I-485, I-601, I-687 and I-698 forms. Is there a plan to include
other forms, specifically nonimmigrant and naturalization, in this policy?
A8. No.
Q9. Should customers contact USCIS through the 1-800 customer service number or make an
INFOPASS appointment to visit their local office if they believe their application meets the criteria
of this new policy?
A9. We recommend that customers wait until mid-March before inquiring about cases affected by this
policy modification. This will allow each office sufficient time to identify and adjudicate the relevant
pending cases. If no action is taken by mid-March, we recommend inquiring with the USCIS customer
service line at 1-800-375-5283.
Q10. Will USCIS automatically notify an applicant to appear at an Application Support Center if their fingerprints have expired?
A10. Applicants will be notified through an appointment notice if new/updated fingerprint checks are
needed.
– USCIS –
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arnet
06-18 02:48 PM
i support this initiative too.
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H1bslave
11-19 03:43 PM
Thanks for your responses and being good critique (aka Devil�s advocate). Unless we analyze our idea from all point-of-views we won�t be able to make it stronger.
Thanks for your contribution.
How about taking out US Masters of all the queues for a while, that will as well speed up the GC process for others. :D:D
Come on guys. Just because CIR is in question for few more months people are coming up with their own agenda. I will come up with my own, how about seperate quota for the folks came in Year 2001 because we faced lot of struggles to keep the job during the bad market.
a self serving proposal..
MS is just a pretext for many who are here. MS is worthless if you are a software engineer.. you don't need MS to be coding in Java or .NET...
MS from some vague sidey backstreet community college cannot be compared to MS from other better off schools.
your proposal is distracting from the main agenda. CIR or other relief measures.
Thanks for your contribution.
How about taking out US Masters of all the queues for a while, that will as well speed up the GC process for others. :D:D
Come on guys. Just because CIR is in question for few more months people are coming up with their own agenda. I will come up with my own, how about seperate quota for the folks came in Year 2001 because we faced lot of struggles to keep the job during the bad market.
a self serving proposal..
MS is just a pretext for many who are here. MS is worthless if you are a software engineer.. you don't need MS to be coding in Java or .NET...
MS from some vague sidey backstreet community college cannot be compared to MS from other better off schools.
your proposal is distracting from the main agenda. CIR or other relief measures.
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ak_2006
11-25 01:46 PM
Hi Pappu and IV Sr.Members,
Thanks for the updates and hard work.
Thanks for the updates and hard work.
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Winner
07-21 08:18 AM
Oh my god.....Really? is the ice cold there?
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Macaca
09-03 08:26 AM
From The Contribution of Legal Immigration to the Social Security System (http://www.aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=12396) By Stuart Anderson, February 2005
When you work and pay social security taxes, you earn social security credits. Most people earn the maximum of four credits per year. Each of the three main Social Security programs accumulates credits in the same way.
To qualify for retirement benefits you must have worked for at least 10 years for a total of 40 credits.
The amount of benefits is based on a person’s average earnings over 35 years. If a person is credited for less than 35 years of work, the missing years are averaged in as zeros, greatly reducing benefits.
Social Security benefits to current retirees are funded primarily out of the taxes paid by today’s workers. For that reason additional workers are extremely beneficial to America’s “pay as you go” system. (page 4)
Immigrants typically arrive near the start of their working years and may contribute to the system for up to four decades before receiving any benefits.
In addition, the immigrants have children who upon reaching working age immediately start paying into the Social Security system. These children will not receive any benefits for often more than 6 decades after the arrival to America of their immigrant parent.
By the time the child of the immigrant starts receiving benefits, the grandchild (or grandchildren) of the immigrant will already have been working and paying into the Social Security system for many years.
When you work and pay social security taxes, you earn social security credits. Most people earn the maximum of four credits per year. Each of the three main Social Security programs accumulates credits in the same way.
To qualify for retirement benefits you must have worked for at least 10 years for a total of 40 credits.
The amount of benefits is based on a person’s average earnings over 35 years. If a person is credited for less than 35 years of work, the missing years are averaged in as zeros, greatly reducing benefits.
Social Security benefits to current retirees are funded primarily out of the taxes paid by today’s workers. For that reason additional workers are extremely beneficial to America’s “pay as you go” system. (page 4)
Immigrants typically arrive near the start of their working years and may contribute to the system for up to four decades before receiving any benefits.
In addition, the immigrants have children who upon reaching working age immediately start paying into the Social Security system. These children will not receive any benefits for often more than 6 decades after the arrival to America of their immigrant parent.
By the time the child of the immigrant starts receiving benefits, the grandchild (or grandchildren) of the immigrant will already have been working and paying into the Social Security system for many years.
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zoozee
08-28 03:52 PM
where are you planning to stay?
Zoozee,
Even I'm flying from San Jose airport on Monday evening.My flight is at 6:30 pm (AA airlines). Can you tell me about your flight schedule?
Zoozee,
Even I'm flying from San Jose airport on Monday evening.My flight is at 6:30 pm (AA airlines). Can you tell me about your flight schedule?
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BharatPremi
11-06 04:22 PM
When you set up the infopass appntmt do you have to select the option
'EAD Inquiry Appmt' even when you are going with AP question.
Thank you.
You should do following for Advanced Parole related appointment if you are arranging the first appointment.
http://www.infopass.uscis.gov/
Select
- You need Service on a case that has already been filed
On next screen select
-Case Processing Appointment - If you received a notice to go to your local office for further case processing.
'EAD Inquiry Appmt' even when you are going with AP question.
Thank you.
You should do following for Advanced Parole related appointment if you are arranging the first appointment.
http://www.infopass.uscis.gov/
Select
- You need Service on a case that has already been filed
On next screen select
-Case Processing Appointment - If you received a notice to go to your local office for further case processing.
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salcom3
07-13 07:59 PM
I totally agree with you akgind.
Here is my daughter's case:
1994 she was 8 years old when we brought her to USA
2002 asylum case was denied, we had to go back to our country (we didn't stay illegaly)
2002 after one month we came back, with H-1 visa, daughter with H-4
2003 I applied for LC
2006 My daughter turned 21 - She had to change status to F-1 (of course college fees were triple). She is out of LC process because of her age.
2007 LC approved, she is still F-1 and paying a lot of money in tuition.
I mean, these kids like my daughter (and I am sure there are thousands like her), deserve a break too. If the DREAM ACT is going to benefit illegal persons, it should also benefit children that have waited for their parents' LC process for long years only to see their hopes destroyed.
Here is my daughter's case:
1994 she was 8 years old when we brought her to USA
2002 asylum case was denied, we had to go back to our country (we didn't stay illegaly)
2002 after one month we came back, with H-1 visa, daughter with H-4
2003 I applied for LC
2006 My daughter turned 21 - She had to change status to F-1 (of course college fees were triple). She is out of LC process because of her age.
2007 LC approved, she is still F-1 and paying a lot of money in tuition.
I mean, these kids like my daughter (and I am sure there are thousands like her), deserve a break too. If the DREAM ACT is going to benefit illegal persons, it should also benefit children that have waited for their parents' LC process for long years only to see their hopes destroyed.
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jahnavi
06-20 12:29 PM
jahnavi
May i know when was your last fingerprint done, my PD is Aug 2003 and i had finger print done long back so do they need to do the fingerprint gain before approving?
I gave type 2 Fp in 8/2006
All fingers this year March again
Good luck
May i know when was your last fingerprint done, my PD is Aug 2003 and i had finger print done long back so do they need to do the fingerprint gain before approving?
I gave type 2 Fp in 8/2006
All fingers this year March again
Good luck
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cheg
08-22 07:16 PM
Thanks for the info, roseball!
http://www.nafsa.org/regulatory_information.sec/regulatory_document_library.dlib/employment-based_immigration/final_rule_on_labor_certification
Starting July 16th, 2007, labor certification has a 60 day validity period. Meaning, a I-140 petition needs to be filed within 60 days from labor approval date....If immigrant visa numbers are unavailable (dates retrogressed), you wont be able to file your I-140/I-485 concurrently but you can file your I-140 petition irrespective of your priority date as long as you have a labor approved. You dont have to apply for your labor again and again....Its just that, once you get your I-140 approved, you will have to wait for dates to become current to file I-485...
http://www.nafsa.org/regulatory_information.sec/regulatory_document_library.dlib/employment-based_immigration/final_rule_on_labor_certification
Starting July 16th, 2007, labor certification has a 60 day validity period. Meaning, a I-140 petition needs to be filed within 60 days from labor approval date....If immigrant visa numbers are unavailable (dates retrogressed), you wont be able to file your I-140/I-485 concurrently but you can file your I-140 petition irrespective of your priority date as long as you have a labor approved. You dont have to apply for your labor again and again....Its just that, once you get your I-140 approved, you will have to wait for dates to become current to file I-485...
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nefrateedi
07-19 12:05 PM
Thanks for the responses. How about this question ?
Is it out of status if one gets paid from 2 companies with
2 H1bs , like, If one is on bench but getting paid by that company, starts working with 2nd company on transferred H1b, so it is like double pay for about 2-3 weeks .
If you're getting paid while you're on bench with Company A, and Company B has transfered your H1, and is paying you as well, that's not a problem. The problem arises if you're on bench and are not getting paid. On H1, one has to be paid even if he/she is on bench.
Hope this helps answer your question.
Is it out of status if one gets paid from 2 companies with
2 H1bs , like, If one is on bench but getting paid by that company, starts working with 2nd company on transferred H1b, so it is like double pay for about 2-3 weeks .
If you're getting paid while you're on bench with Company A, and Company B has transfered your H1, and is paying you as well, that's not a problem. The problem arises if you're on bench and are not getting paid. On H1, one has to be paid even if he/she is on bench.
Hope this helps answer your question.
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PHANI_TAVVALA
04-29 01:52 PM
Typhoon costs about $135M a piece
Eurofighter Typhoon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter#Costs)
Rafael costs close to $100M.
India definitely needs a F-22 like aircraft considering the Indian AGNI-3 is still not operational and there is no proper long-range nuclear weapon delivery medium. Sukhoi's and Mirage's are no F-22's.
Eurofighter Typhoon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter#Costs)
Rafael costs close to $100M.
India definitely needs a F-22 like aircraft considering the Indian AGNI-3 is still not operational and there is no proper long-range nuclear weapon delivery medium. Sukhoi's and Mirage's are no F-22's.
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Znan
07-25 04:49 PM
I see your point, I would still prefer browsing and having migranes than paying attention and doing all that the wife says (Impossible exists in one placec for sure-just try doing what she tells you for once:D)
It is not about you browsing on this forum continously..it is about you not paying attention to your wife continoulsy.:D:D
Even if there would no IV..wife will tell you the same for some other stuff you are following vigourously.
It is not about you browsing on this forum continously..it is about you not paying attention to your wife continoulsy.:D:D
Even if there would no IV..wife will tell you the same for some other stuff you are following vigourously.
ngopalak
03-03 02:37 PM
This is probably somebody playing a prank or worse somebody trying to cheat you...cannot imagine how though.....
Hi
Today I got a call from an officer in "immigration and customs enforcement" asking for an appointment to visit my residence for checing my immigration status.
I am on H1B visa.
I would appreciate if someone could give any sort of information related to calling for a home visit.
Thanks
Hi
Today I got a call from an officer in "immigration and customs enforcement" asking for an appointment to visit my residence for checing my immigration status.
I am on H1B visa.
I would appreciate if someone could give any sort of information related to calling for a home visit.
Thanks
franklin
04-13 08:44 PM
hey guys I think its OK now to call IV as Indian organization with this bulltin and per their statement there is a good chance that ROW will move ahead and we will be stuck EB3 India in particular
If you don't stop saying comments like this, you'll totally alienated people like me. It is a global issue, doesn't matter where you are from. People from all nationalities are affected. Oh guess what, it wasn't just Indian nationals who saw no movement.
Or, if you truly feel this way, I'll take my donations elsewhere, and I'll stop meeting with lawmakers on everyone's behalf.
If you don't stop saying comments like this, you'll totally alienated people like me. It is a global issue, doesn't matter where you are from. People from all nationalities are affected. Oh guess what, it wasn't just Indian nationals who saw no movement.
Or, if you truly feel this way, I'll take my donations elsewhere, and I'll stop meeting with lawmakers on everyone's behalf.
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