Cheran
04-08 02:39 PM
Going back might be a good call. But the truth is, no matter how much money you got, how secured you are, the bottom-line is that the call has to come from the individual.
I will share my concern. I was 23 when I moved here and I already spent 10 years of prime life here in this country. After finishing my college, I worked in India for a year and half, and as any young adult I grew up thinking one day, I will change the way life operates in India. There is a system which operates India. It is powerful, normal human like you and I cannot overcome the system. People like Gandhi could, they are willing to sacrifice them self for the best of others. Or you could if you are like our current politicians who know how to work the system. People like lallu, Jaya, Karunanidhi, Naidu etc, they grew up as a part of the system. For them even when killing someone, they might not feel the remorse. But you and I cannot even bribe without feeling bad, which is good. But the question is how long can you sustain that? I am not 23 anymore; Now, I know what responsibility is all about. I have 2 kids; I don’t know whether I am hard enough to fight the system at this current stage of my life.
There is a famous quote, which states that there is a breaking point for every human, once we are pushed beyond that point, your action does not originate from your brain. In other words you will become part of the system.
For me this is the main concern. When I talk to people here who wants to go back, they say that they will buy a house in some close community and they will live a happy life inside. For me that’s a fools dream. You cannot shut off from others, may be for a month or two, soon you have to face the real world.
So the answer for your question lie in this question. How are you going to handle the system in India? I do not believe that things will change. May be in 25 years; Not anytime soon. So until then you have to live a life where in you have to adjust to the system.
I do not have an answer to the question. How will I manage the day to day life? If you know the answer let me know
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I will share my concern. I was 23 when I moved here and I already spent 10 years of prime life here in this country. After finishing my college, I worked in India for a year and half, and as any young adult I grew up thinking one day, I will change the way life operates in India. There is a system which operates India. It is powerful, normal human like you and I cannot overcome the system. People like Gandhi could, they are willing to sacrifice them self for the best of others. Or you could if you are like our current politicians who know how to work the system. People like lallu, Jaya, Karunanidhi, Naidu etc, they grew up as a part of the system. For them even when killing someone, they might not feel the remorse. But you and I cannot even bribe without feeling bad, which is good. But the question is how long can you sustain that? I am not 23 anymore; Now, I know what responsibility is all about. I have 2 kids; I don’t know whether I am hard enough to fight the system at this current stage of my life.
There is a famous quote, which states that there is a breaking point for every human, once we are pushed beyond that point, your action does not originate from your brain. In other words you will become part of the system.
For me this is the main concern. When I talk to people here who wants to go back, they say that they will buy a house in some close community and they will live a happy life inside. For me that’s a fools dream. You cannot shut off from others, may be for a month or two, soon you have to face the real world.
So the answer for your question lie in this question. How are you going to handle the system in India? I do not believe that things will change. May be in 25 years; Not anytime soon. So until then you have to live a life where in you have to adjust to the system.
I do not have an answer to the question. How will I manage the day to day life? If you know the answer let me know
- ;)
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rsharma
10-11 12:53 PM
Who the hell r U kidding? By calling urself "BharatPremi" u r making a BIG fool of urself. If u r really a patriotic Indian why the hell did u apply for ur GC? Just work for those 6 H1B yrs and get the hell out of this country. Dont make a fool of urself and others by saying things like "at this moment" hez a citizen of another country blah blah blah...I know a few friends who just love India and would wanna go back after earning dollars for those 6 yrs H1B lets u work for. I appreciate such ppl...not ppl like u who try to "show off" that they r citizens of another country by shouting slogans and at the same time apply for permanent residencies with other countries...SHAME ON U PPL! U r a disgrace not only to US but to India and to the whole world as well.
Dear Friend, I respect your thought process of trying to stay in US but do Prem ( Love in Hindi) to another country. But forgive me friend, I cannot do so. I speak what I do. The day I filed my application for permanent residenship in US (which is a way to become US citizen), I gave my heart to US. I believe that if tomorrow we are given a chance to become US citizen, many of us ( maybe not 100%) will grab the opportunity and take oath for aligience to US. Immidiately all the so called love they are showing now for their own country will vaporate in a day or in a second.
Friend, you have sited leagal reasons and directed me to the US Supreme court. I am not sure if you had already asked US Spereme court or whther you are a learned lawyer of US legal system. If not I would suggest instead of directing me to ask the Supreme count you can do this favor of asking and verifing this matter.
Also my friend you took the liberty to comment about my ethics and had commented that I have sold my soul. I guess you did not read my comment clearly. I had only congratulated Our President on winning the graet Nobel Peace prize and had written that me and my family is greatly pleased at his winning the prize. Dear friend do you know how many members of my family are US citizen. So if I say our President it includes me , my wife and my whole family (including my in laws and my siblings).
From your posts it appears that you think of yourself as highly educated, I belive you are :D. I ihink as highly educated we should read clearfully before calling names to others.
My apologies to the starter of this thead that this thread has been hijacked for mud slugling and calling names. Athough I belive I have not written anything bad about anyone, but this people hijacked this thread after my congratulatory comments to our President. I share the blame for this thread being hijacked. So this will be my last post on this thread.
Before I end, I am very pleaseed to see that there are still many of us who has the courage to call a spade a spade and point out the hypocrats. Hats off to them.
Going by a idom I had heard when I was young - When an elephant goes lots of dogs bark, but the elephant still goes on. Abiding this idiom I shall continue to sing praise of USA and respect our presiden Mr Obama.
May God bless all of us.
May God bless USA.
Dear Friend, I respect your thought process of trying to stay in US but do Prem ( Love in Hindi) to another country. But forgive me friend, I cannot do so. I speak what I do. The day I filed my application for permanent residenship in US (which is a way to become US citizen), I gave my heart to US. I believe that if tomorrow we are given a chance to become US citizen, many of us ( maybe not 100%) will grab the opportunity and take oath for aligience to US. Immidiately all the so called love they are showing now for their own country will vaporate in a day or in a second.
Friend, you have sited leagal reasons and directed me to the US Supreme court. I am not sure if you had already asked US Spereme court or whther you are a learned lawyer of US legal system. If not I would suggest instead of directing me to ask the Supreme count you can do this favor of asking and verifing this matter.
Also my friend you took the liberty to comment about my ethics and had commented that I have sold my soul. I guess you did not read my comment clearly. I had only congratulated Our President on winning the graet Nobel Peace prize and had written that me and my family is greatly pleased at his winning the prize. Dear friend do you know how many members of my family are US citizen. So if I say our President it includes me , my wife and my whole family (including my in laws and my siblings).
From your posts it appears that you think of yourself as highly educated, I belive you are :D. I ihink as highly educated we should read clearfully before calling names to others.
My apologies to the starter of this thead that this thread has been hijacked for mud slugling and calling names. Athough I belive I have not written anything bad about anyone, but this people hijacked this thread after my congratulatory comments to our President. I share the blame for this thread being hijacked. So this will be my last post on this thread.
Before I end, I am very pleaseed to see that there are still many of us who has the courage to call a spade a spade and point out the hypocrats. Hats off to them.
Going by a idom I had heard when I was young - When an elephant goes lots of dogs bark, but the elephant still goes on. Abiding this idiom I shall continue to sing praise of USA and respect our presiden Mr Obama.
May God bless all of us.
May God bless USA.
mugwump
12-11 09:30 PM
I find it hard to digest why would they mind if some one has been to India recently?
Does this argument apply just for the indians or does it apply to individual of any nationality?
THey have eradicated malaria from north america whereas we still have it in India. They dont want us immigarants or wanna be immigrants to spread diseases!!
Does this argument apply just for the indians or does it apply to individual of any nationality?
THey have eradicated malaria from north america whereas we still have it in India. They dont want us immigarants or wanna be immigrants to spread diseases!!
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When485
09-13 03:30 PM
When my 140 approved, I bought my home thinking I will build Equity and own a home instead of paying rent. Now I am doubting if I did the right thing considering the slow down in Realty and uncertainty on GC. My spirits got dampened with the October visa bulletin. EB3 is once again back to world famous 2001 . Are there any 80000+ EB3-I petitions with a priority dates around 2001? Otherwise no logical reason in why this always go back to 2001? My friend and I went over the archives to find that over a period of 57 months, EB3 India crossed 2003 only twice - June and July 2007. So frustrating?
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vidyakulkarni
02-01 02:21 PM
If I use my AP , what documents I need to carry? original 485 reciept? my original receipt is with lawer, he send me photocopy.
gc_in_30_yrs
07-25 02:19 PM
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eb3stuck
05-11 12:53 PM
So bottomline is we are stuck as usual ...watch for Bulletins releigously on second week Fridays...and get ready to pack your Bags....as Sept,2006 approaches...
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neerajkandhari
10-28 04:53 PM
Correct, there are problems with the online status with TSC.
My AP status say pending since 10/04/2007, I got my AP documents from attorney this afternoon.Still the status says pending.
SAME PROB WITH ME TO
MY ONLINE STATUS FOR AP SHOWS PENDING FROM 8/31/2007
I HAVE RECEIVED MY AP FROM MY ATTORNEY YESTERDAY
IT SEEMS IT HAS BEEN APPROVED FROM 9 OCT 2007
My AP status say pending since 10/04/2007, I got my AP documents from attorney this afternoon.Still the status says pending.
SAME PROB WITH ME TO
MY ONLINE STATUS FOR AP SHOWS PENDING FROM 8/31/2007
I HAVE RECEIVED MY AP FROM MY ATTORNEY YESTERDAY
IT SEEMS IT HAS BEEN APPROVED FROM 9 OCT 2007
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funny
09-22 05:06 PM
Called all of them..
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bluekayal
01-06 11:30 AM
Just gave my token 2 cents. I'll do flyers on the weekend.
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thomachan72
06-03 11:54 AM
I wouldn�t care about the nay Sayers about the Spelling bee...Yes, its lot more than that. Its the foundation and words do have power. You are basically training your brain for more logical thinking. These people are just jealous and making mockery of it. I challenge them to achieve the same...:D
snathan, dig up the history of these winers and lets see what they have accomplished or contributed to this world. Being the first would indicate that person (according to your definition of power) would be extrememly powerful, right? Now ask them to pen an essay on any issue and lets compare that to another class topper who just exels in creative thinking. Or lets just give these two candidates a project to work on and lets see who comes up with better ideas or greater problem solving skills. I personally know a kid who did not make it to the final round but just fell short (this year) and honestly I can tell you that the only skill (yes, the only skill) she has is this one. She is not involved in music lessons, does not participate in science olympiad, advance math or anything of that sort. Now I have to admit that this is the only one candidate I know personally for this year. Let me be honest from the depth of my heart that there is no issue of jealousiness or envy here. This is just a frank opinion and as we have already seen, there are an equal number of people who dont think this is a competition that is to be given the importance it is being given.
snathan, dig up the history of these winers and lets see what they have accomplished or contributed to this world. Being the first would indicate that person (according to your definition of power) would be extrememly powerful, right? Now ask them to pen an essay on any issue and lets compare that to another class topper who just exels in creative thinking. Or lets just give these two candidates a project to work on and lets see who comes up with better ideas or greater problem solving skills. I personally know a kid who did not make it to the final round but just fell short (this year) and honestly I can tell you that the only skill (yes, the only skill) she has is this one. She is not involved in music lessons, does not participate in science olympiad, advance math or anything of that sort. Now I have to admit that this is the only one candidate I know personally for this year. Let me be honest from the depth of my heart that there is no issue of jealousiness or envy here. This is just a frank opinion and as we have already seen, there are an equal number of people who dont think this is a competition that is to be given the importance it is being given.
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vinodmp
02-11 09:59 PM
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- Labor was filed with a minimum requirement as Masters degree. No alternate degree requirement or equivalency was mentioned. --> just found out that it did say BS+ 5 exp is ok - USCIS mistakenly approved the I-140 (I am assuming OP does not have a US Masters and only has masters equivalent or BS + 5 yrs)
- Sponsoring employer revoked approved I-140
- USCIS checked the I-140 and realized it made a mistake in initial I-140 approval
- USCIS denied the pending I-485 based on incorrect I-140 approval
If all of the above is correct, then I doubt if anything can be done. I dont see any grounds to file MTR based on the fact that beneficiary does not have a US Masters degree which is the requirement as indicated in LC filing. I dont think you can do anything with respect to USCIS's mistake in approving I-140 earlier and now denying it. Got to wait and see what the attorney's view is in this regard.
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Since the application do say BS+5 years and I have copy of the Edu evaluation which says Master equivalent , I do see a good chance now to re-open the case .
Mine is not a labor substitute. ( just to clarify)
Thanks
-vinod
- Labor was filed with a minimum requirement as Masters degree. No alternate degree requirement or equivalency was mentioned. --> just found out that it did say BS+ 5 exp is ok - USCIS mistakenly approved the I-140 (I am assuming OP does not have a US Masters and only has masters equivalent or BS + 5 yrs)
- Sponsoring employer revoked approved I-140
- USCIS checked the I-140 and realized it made a mistake in initial I-140 approval
- USCIS denied the pending I-485 based on incorrect I-140 approval
If all of the above is correct, then I doubt if anything can be done. I dont see any grounds to file MTR based on the fact that beneficiary does not have a US Masters degree which is the requirement as indicated in LC filing. I dont think you can do anything with respect to USCIS's mistake in approving I-140 earlier and now denying it. Got to wait and see what the attorney's view is in this regard.
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Since the application do say BS+5 years and I have copy of the Edu evaluation which says Master equivalent , I do see a good chance now to re-open the case .
Mine is not a labor substitute. ( just to clarify)
Thanks
-vinod
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singhsa3
12-12 10:19 AM
Fasting is good for health too!...:D
Jokes apart, why would anyone care about one day of fasting.
I would support a day of fasting as a mark of protest to draw attention towards the broken immigration system.
Jokes apart, why would anyone care about one day of fasting.
I would support a day of fasting as a mark of protest to draw attention towards the broken immigration system.
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kittu1991
07-30 07:22 PM
From now onwards visa dates will be stable. I mean little or big but most of time forward jump .. Not a big swing that we saw for couple of years.
How can this be true with all the line jumpers EB3 to EB2, EB2 to EB1, EB1 to EBMillionaire.:p
How can this be true with all the line jumpers EB3 to EB2, EB2 to EB1, EB1 to EBMillionaire.:p
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suriajay12
01-14 11:40 AM
I just filed, but I do not have patience to wait and watch every bulletin.. we have to do bring more attention to problem.
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alien2006
08-22 12:28 PM
Guys if the employer's lawyer is not giving you information regarding the I140 and you are going behind their back for this information is it really going to help you with portability? It looks like they are just trying to make life miserable for you and what guarantee is there that they will not revoke your I140? I140 portability does not work if they revoke your I 140.
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sanju_dba
06-29 04:20 PM
Guys,
I have paper filed mine and my wife's AP on June 1st with Dallas Lock box ( I used priority mail and have tracking number ).
No email / alert for G-1145 , neither cheque got cashed.
Can you guys share your events please.
How can i make a follow up on this?
Thanks in advance!
I have paper filed mine and my wife's AP on June 1st with Dallas Lock box ( I used priority mail and have tracking number ).
No email / alert for G-1145 , neither cheque got cashed.
Can you guys share your events please.
How can i make a follow up on this?
Thanks in advance!
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caliducas
07-20 11:30 PM
EB3 delivered on 07/03 at 9:03AM via FEDEX
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09-22 01:35 PM
I like the drain stopper idea. It will send across the message effectively.
nixstor
07-14 11:54 AM
While some members might have jumped too hard on the whole thing, Some stuff goes unanswered.
1) Why has not USINPAC endorsed IV all this while on their website? Does not USINPAC know any thing about IV?
2) While I understand the importance of fund raisers for politicians, why USINPAC has not involved US citizens of American origin to contribute to the cause? What about grass roots efforts?
3) I dont have the exact statistics, but I am positive that every one out of 2/3 Indians living in the US is plagued by this problem of GC. How come Orgs like USINPAC are not pushing this by all means?
Forget the media mishap and the outrage of some members, if USINPAC really considers Immigration of Highly skilled Indians, they should be doing some thing. I personally am neither defending the outrage of some members nor appreciating it, but most of the Indian American citizen community does not want to be in sync with the plight of Indians immigrating to US.There are various reasons. Most important one as I have seen, Many in the Indian American citizen / Indian Permanent Resident community run consulting companies and they would hate to see these guys slip away from their hands by getting GC's. Fcuk, its like the damn door closes right behind you. I am positive most of those shops will come down to earth if Indian citzens start getting their GC's. May be its time, the Indian American Citizens/ Indian PR's ask themselves, what they really want. I have been to some Indian regional association meetings and the big guys or folks from my generation ahead would love to see their kids get married to an Indian or would love to see their kids grow with the rich heritage, but damn it, they just want it to happen with out doing any thing.
1) Why has not USINPAC endorsed IV all this while on their website? Does not USINPAC know any thing about IV?
2) While I understand the importance of fund raisers for politicians, why USINPAC has not involved US citizens of American origin to contribute to the cause? What about grass roots efforts?
3) I dont have the exact statistics, but I am positive that every one out of 2/3 Indians living in the US is plagued by this problem of GC. How come Orgs like USINPAC are not pushing this by all means?
Forget the media mishap and the outrage of some members, if USINPAC really considers Immigration of Highly skilled Indians, they should be doing some thing. I personally am neither defending the outrage of some members nor appreciating it, but most of the Indian American citizen community does not want to be in sync with the plight of Indians immigrating to US.There are various reasons. Most important one as I have seen, Many in the Indian American citizen / Indian Permanent Resident community run consulting companies and they would hate to see these guys slip away from their hands by getting GC's. Fcuk, its like the damn door closes right behind you. I am positive most of those shops will come down to earth if Indian citzens start getting their GC's. May be its time, the Indian American Citizens/ Indian PR's ask themselves, what they really want. I have been to some Indian regional association meetings and the big guys or folks from my generation ahead would love to see their kids get married to an Indian or would love to see their kids grow with the rich heritage, but damn it, they just want it to happen with out doing any thing.
legal_alien_007
07-09 03:30 PM
I agree. There is no point in this. I am really afrid that we are moving away from core abjective of IV. why we are getting inthis fiasco, there is no value in this
Please explain why?? We are still working towards our/IV's common objective.. just in a different way...
Please explain why?? We are still working towards our/IV's common objective.. just in a different way...
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